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	<title>Comments on: iPhone: locked up tight, not that it matters right now</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Web down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Web down?</p>
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		<title>By: eas</title>
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		<dc:creator>eas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tor, thanks for the clarification!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tor, thanks for the clarification!</p>
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		<title>By: Tor Slettnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tor Slettnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some inaccuracies.

GSM (including GPRS and EDGE) is definitely available in most of the world, including Europe.   The iPhone supports both the 850/1900 MHz frequencies used in the USA, and the 900/1800 MHz frequencies used internationally.

UMTS (a.k.a. 3GSM) is another story though.  This requires a separate chipset (manufactured under license from Qualcom, the owner of the (W)CDMA patents), something which Steve Jobs has indicated was the primary reason for not supporting 3G - this other chipset drains the battery much faster.   If the iPhone ever DOES get UMTS hardware, look for 850/1900MHz bands for use with Cingular, 1700MHz for T-Mobile (limited deployment at this point), and 2100MHz in Europe and Asia.

Second, although it is true the at Visual Voicemail is a new AT&amp;T feature developed specifically for the iPhone, it is not true that unlocked (actually I suspect you mean unbranded) phones, &quot;in the US, at least, are denied access to a carriers mobile data infrastructure&quot;.   That&#039;s pure BS.  I have been using a unlocked/unbranded Motorola A1200 (which is not even offered by a US carrier) on Cingular&#039;s network without any problem.  You do need some additional information to set it up (i.e. voicemail dial-in number, GPRS APN, etc..) - but these are readily available under the &quot;Support&quot; section on the Cingular web page.

Verizon, Sprint and Nextel do not use GSM or UMTS at all - so with these carriers any &quot;unlocked&quot; phone (something which really pertains only to GSM/UMTS phones) will not work.  You are essentially stuck with the options they offer.  (OTH, it seems they have better real-world speeds for their EV-DO 3G network, compared to Cingular&#039;s UMTS/HSDPA networks..)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some inaccuracies.</p>
<p>GSM (including GPRS and EDGE) is definitely available in most of the world, including Europe.   The iPhone supports both the 850/1900 MHz frequencies used in the USA, and the 900/1800 MHz frequencies used internationally.</p>
<p>UMTS (a.k.a. 3GSM) is another story though.  This requires a separate chipset (manufactured under license from Qualcom, the owner of the (W)CDMA patents), something which Steve Jobs has indicated was the primary reason for not supporting 3G &#8211; this other chipset drains the battery much faster.   If the iPhone ever DOES get UMTS hardware, look for 850/1900MHz bands for use with Cingular, 1700MHz for T-Mobile (limited deployment at this point), and 2100MHz in Europe and Asia.</p>
<p>Second, although it is true the at Visual Voicemail is a new AT&amp;T feature developed specifically for the iPhone, it is not true that unlocked (actually I suspect you mean unbranded) phones, &#8220;in the US, at least, are denied access to a carriers mobile data infrastructure&#8221;.   That&#8217;s pure BS.  I have been using a unlocked/unbranded Motorola A1200 (which is not even offered by a US carrier) on Cingular&#8217;s network without any problem.  You do need some additional information to set it up (i.e. voicemail dial-in number, GPRS APN, etc..) &#8211; but these are readily available under the &#8220;Support&#8221; section on the Cingular web page.</p>
<p>Verizon, Sprint and Nextel do not use GSM or UMTS at all &#8211; so with these carriers any &#8220;unlocked&#8221; phone (something which really pertains only to GSM/UMTS phones) will not work.  You are essentially stuck with the options they offer.  (OTH, it seems they have better real-world speeds for their EV-DO 3G network, compared to Cingular&#8217;s UMTS/HSDPA networks..)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Nee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Nee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hope you can hack the antenna.  the only time i get a full signal at home is when it is in the cradle.  i would love to be able to turn it up even though i give up battery life.  i will be happy to give a donation.  thanks, chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hope you can hack the antenna.  the only time i get a full signal at home is when it is in the cradle.  i would love to be able to turn it up even though i give up battery life.  i will be happy to give a donation.  thanks, chris</p>
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		<title>By: eas</title>
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		<dc:creator>eas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, you are out of luck.  It only works with locked AT&amp;T sims with the appropriate iTunes friendly account.  Even if you could get it to work with Tmobile, visual voicemail and proably push IMAP wouldn&#039;t work.  In fact, the mobile internet access over the EDGE network might not even work.

We&#039;ll see what ultimately happens.  People might be able to get everything but the visual voicemail and push IMAP working on TMobile, but it will probably break the next time a system update comes out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, you are out of luck.  It only works with locked AT&#038;T sims with the appropriate iTunes friendly account.  Even if you could get it to work with Tmobile, visual voicemail and proably push IMAP wouldn&#8217;t work.  In fact, the mobile internet access over the EDGE network might not even work.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see what ultimately happens.  People might be able to get everything but the visual voicemail and push IMAP working on TMobile, but it will probably break the next time a system update comes out.</p>
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